Thief Builds 2017-04-26T14:01:40+00:00

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Staff Daredevil

WRITTEN ROTATION
CC BREAKDOWN

Weakening Charge Rotation

To make sure that none of the 3 Weakening Charge hits miss their target, you should untarget the enemy and aim your camera down.

Difficulty
Personal DPS
Crowd Control (CC)
Super Effective Effective Not Effective
Due to the current state of the meta and benchmark, Thief isn’t Super Effective anywhere. File:Mini Vale Guardian.png File:Mini Gorseval the Multifarious.png File:Mini Slothasor.png File:Mini Xera.png File:Mini Mursaat Overseer.png File:Mini Samarog.png File:Mini Ragged White Mantle Figurehead.png File:Mini Sabetha.png File:Mini Matthias Abomination.png File:Mini Keep Construct.png File:Mini Cairn the Indomitable.png

General Advice

  • To make sure that none of the 3 Weakening Charge  hits miss their target, you should untarget the enemy and aim your camera down
  • You can use Vault  as a gap closer and also as a dodge (the evade frames are at the start of the animation)
  • Make sure that your endurance bar is never full to maintain Staff Master and deal an extra 10% dmg on all of your staff skills.
  • You can activate Assassin’s Signet  at the end of a fight and do Weakening Charge  with a 15% dmg modifier.
  • If you need dodges or a desperate condi cleanse you can use Signet of Agility  to get 2 dodges and cleanse 3 condis.
  • Sidestep blues instead of dodging for more dps uptime

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  • Using Vault  to dodge his Egg or Slam attack to keep up your rotation is a DPS increase over plain dodging

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  • To kill cannons quickly use Dodge -> AA chain -> 2x Vault
  • Empty your endurance when a new champ spawns
  • To lose as little DPS as possible only move to the platform when you see someone got the green bomb

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  • A quick way to get rid of the poison is to dodge in the green mushroom aoe use special action key and then Steal(F1)  on the boss

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Skillbar: Take Impact Strike  instead of Basilisk Venom  as the shared venom might hit the boss and not the sacrificed person.

  • Using Vault to dodge his Hadouken attack to keep up your rotation is a DPS increase over plain dodging
  • If you have Poison you can use Vault as a gap closer to reach the Cleansing Wells faster

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  • If you run more then 1 Thief you might have to do 3 or more orbs as Thief is not that great on KC

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  • You can have a Double Pistol weapon swap incase you have to stay on a button and range the shard
  • Jump with Vault on the Bloodstone Shards to quickly kill them

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  • You can use Vault as a gap closer to get to greens if your Special Action Key is on cooldown

Challenge Mode: Pretty much the same as Normal mode
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  • You can skip the next event (open the door to Samarog) by just walking to it and interacting with it (works only on thief)

Challenge Mode: Use Vault as a gap closer to get to blues faster
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  • Using Vault to dodge Shockwave attack (jump towards the center) to keep up your rotation is a DPS increase over plain dodging

Challenge Mode: You can use Vault to dodge in place if you have the red AoE special mechanic
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  • Using Vault to dodge his Knockback attack (stay behind him and jump in front of him) to keep up your rotation is a DPS increase over plain dodging

Challenge Mode: Pretty much the same as Normal Mode
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Double Dagger Thief

WRITTEN ROTATION
CC BREAKDOWN

CnD Backstab Rotation

One of the easiest rotations, once you have the maximum stacks(15) from Lead Attacks do 3 full autoattacks then CnD + Backstab and repeat while using Steal(F1) off cd.

Difficulty
Personal DPS
Crowd Control (CC)
Super Effective Effective Not Effective
Due to the current state of the meta and benchmark, Thief isn’t Super Effective anywhere. File:Mini Vale Guardian.png File:Mini Mursaat Overseer.png Check Other Bosses under Boss Examples & Tips.

General Advice

  • Try to always finish your autoattack as the last hit deals the most dmg.
  • Make sure to always hit Backstab  from behind or a side or else it will do 50% less dmg.
  • Your Steal(F1)  is also a daze so you can use it as a CC skill aswell.
  •  You can activate Assassin’s Signet  at the end of a fight and do Heartseeker  with a 15% dmg modifier.
  • If you need dodges or a desperate condi cleanse you can use Signet of Agility  to get 2 dodges and cleanse 3 condis.
  • Try to not use Infiltrator’s Signet  if possible as the passive is pretty strong but if you really need a stuntbreak you can use it.
  • Sidestep blues instead of dodging for more dps uptime
  • Use Steal(F1)  to instantly remove the Blue Guardian’s boon

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  • You can skip the next event (open the door to Samarog) by just walking to it and interacting with it (works only on thief)

Challenge Mode: Pretty much the same as Normal Mode
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Gorseval: Due to the Permanent Reveal Buff  you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Sabetha the Saboteur:  Due to how much Sabetha moves its pretty hard to land all your Backstabs  so you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Slothasor: Even though he doesn’t move that much it can still be quite hard to land all your Backstabs  so you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Trio Bandit Event: Since this “boss” is pretty much killing trash mobs the cleave on this build is very bad so you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Matthias Gabrel: Due to how much Matthias moves its pretty hard to land all your Backstabs  so you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Escort Glenna Event: Since this “boss” is pretty much killing trash mobs the cleave on this build is very bad so you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Keep Construct: Due to the Permanent Reveal Buff  you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Xera: Due to the Permanent Reveal Buff  you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Cairn the Indomitable: This fight is pretty chaotic and its pretty hard to land all your Backstabs   so you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Samarog: Due to how much Samarog moves its pretty hard to land all your Backstabs  so you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Deimos: Due to the Permanent Reveal Buff  you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead

Condi D/D Daredevil

Core Weapons

2x Viper’s Dagger with Agony and Geomancy Sigil

Viper’s Armor with 6 Berserker Runes or 6 Thorns Runes
(Thorns > Berserker only if you can keep up 3.5 stacks of Thorns Runes 6th bonus)

Stat Infusions

18 Malign Infusion

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CC BREAKDOWN

You can also run Trickery 1-2-1 for extra initiative at the cost of a little dps.

Elite Skills + Situational Skills

Impact Strike , Thieves Guild   +   Needle Trap

Death Blossom Rotation

A pretty simple rotation , once you have the maximum stacks(15) from Lead Attacks do 1 full autoatk chain -> dodge inside the hitbox -> Death Blossom to get back on the boss while using everything else off cd.

Difficulty
Personal DPS
Crowd Control (CC)
Super Effective Effective Not Effective
File:Mini Gorseval the Multifarious.png File:Mini Matthias Abomination.png File:Mini Cairn the Indomitable.png File:Mini Mursaat Overseer.png File:Mini Sabetha.png File:Mini Xera.png File:Mini Samarog.png File:Mini Vale Guardian.png File:Mini Slothasor.png File:Mini Keep Construct.png File:Mini Ragged White Mantle Figurehead.png 

General Advice

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  • To kill cannons quickly : don’t go up , a power class or a condi class is better.
  • During Flamethrower untarget Sabetha and try to aim your Dodge and Death Blossom  so you don’t land in it

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Skillbar: Take Impact Strike  instead of Basilisk Venom  as the shared venom might hit the boss and not the sacrificed person.

  • You can use Death Blossom  to dodge his Hadouken attack
  • If you have Poison you can use Heartseeker  as a gap closer to reach the Cleansing Wells faster

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  •  You can use Death Blossom  to dodge the teleporting aoe’s

Challenge Mode: Pretty much the same as Normal mode
Video:

  • You can skip the next event (open the door to Samarog) by just walking to it and interacting with it (works only on thief)

Challenge Mode: Use Heartseeker  as a gap closer to get to blues faster
Video:

  • Try to use to Death Blossom  to dodge the Shockwave attack or just use a normal dodge.

Challenge Mode: You can use Death Blossom  to dodge in place if you have the red AoE special mechanic
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Vale Guardian: Due to low toughness power dmg is above condi dmg and condi thief doesn’t bring that much against seekers unlike condi ranger/engi so you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil or Double Dagger Thief instead
Slothasor: Due to how condi’s get cleansed after every breakbar you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Trio Bandit Event: Since this “boss” is pretty much killing trash mobs the cleave on this build is very bad so you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Escort Glenna Event: Since this “boss” is pretty much killing trash mobs the cleave on this build is very bad so you should not play this build here, play Staff Daredevil instead
Keep Construct: Due to how condis do on this boss you should not play this build here, power thief will do way more so play Staff Daredevil instead
Xera: This build is not that great at cleaving adds fast so I would recommend playing Staff Daredevil instead
Deimos: While using Death Blossom you have a pretty high chance of triggering the black fields so you should not play this build here play Staff Daredevil instead.

Fractal Thief/Daredevil

You can run both builds but on most encounters Staff Daredevil is better then Double Dagger Thief due to way better cleave(3-5 targets) vs the DD cleave (1-2 targets) and not having to hit from a side/back (DD Backstab rotation). In the end you should run what you  feel most comfortable with but for the highest minmax you should run Staff Daredevil everywhere.
Berserker Staff with Force and Night Sigil for Nighttime Fractals

Berserker Staff with Force and Impact Sigil for Daytime Fractals

Berserker Staff with Force and Serpent Slaying Sigil for Nightmare Fractal

Berserker Dagger with a Force Sigil

3x Berserker Dagger with Night, Impact, and Serpent Slaying Sigil for Nighttime Fractals, Daytime Fractals, and Nightmare Fractal respectively

Optimal

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/thumb/1/11/Mighty_9_Agony_Infusion.png/60px-Mighty_9_Agony_Infusion.png 12 Mighty +9 Agony Infusions

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/thumb/b/bb/Versatile_Mighty_Infusion.png/60px-Versatile_Mighty_Infusion.png 6 Mighty +7 Agony Infusions

Without Stats

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/thumb/5/58/9_Agony_Infusion.png/60px-9_Agony_Infusion.png 6 +9 Agony Infusions

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/thumb/2/28/7_Agony_Infusion.png/60px-7_Agony_Infusion.png 12 +8 Agony Infusions

You can also get 135 AR and use Anguished Tear of Alba  to reach 150 AR

Infinite Mist Omnipotion = All 3 Potions effects in 1.

Large Mist Offensive Potion = Gives you 15% dmg and 15% condi dmg + 225 Precision

Large Mist Mobility Potion = Gives you 50% endurance Recharge and 25% Movement Speed + 225 Concentration

Large Mist Defensive Potion = Gives you a 25% dmg reduction + 225 Toughness

Anguished Tear of Alba = Gives you 15 Agony Resistance ( use it as a way to reach 150 AR to save some gold or for extra stats as 1 AR = 1.5 of a stat)

  • Some effects like the 1 AR = 1.5 of a stat only work if you have the fractal mastery Mistlock Singularities

Optimal
Seaweed Salad + Powerful Potion of X Slaying

Budget
Asparagus and Sage Salad + Powerful Potion of X Slaying

This will vary depending on the Fractal. Below is a table specifying which Potion to use in which Fractal. Some Fractals have enemies in them that aren’t covered by the potions we recommend, but overall you will have the right Potion against important Bosses and mobs.

Disclaimer

Situational Skills

Different for every Fractal, check the “Fractals” tab for more information.

Staff Daredevil – Build

  • To make sure that none of the 3 Weakening Charge  hits miss their target, you should untarget the enemy and aim your camera down
  • You can use Vault  as a gap closer and also as a dodge (the evade frames are at the start of the animation)
  • Make sure that your endurance bar is never full to maintain Staff Master and deal an extra 10% dmg on all of your staff skills.
  • You can activate Assassin’s Signet  at the end of a fight and do Weakening Charge  with a 15% dmg modifier.
  • If you need dodges or a desperate condi cleanse you can use Signet of Agility  to get 2 dodges and cleanse 3 condis.
  • You can use Black Powder  and blast it with Cluster Bomb  + other blasts from your party to skip some trash mobs.

Double Dagger Thief – Build

  • Try to always finish your autoattack as the last hit deals the most dmg.
  • Make sure to always hit Backstab  from behind or a side or else it will do 50% less dmg.
  • Your Steal(F1)  is also a daze so you can use it as a CC skill aswell.
  •  You can activate Assassin’s Signet  at the end of a fight and do Heartseeker  with a 15% dmg modifier.
  • If you need dodges or a desperate condi cleanse you can use Signet of Agility  to get 2 dodges and cleanse 3 condis.
  • Try to not use Infiltrator’s Signet  if possible as the passive is pretty strong but if you really need a stuntbreak you can use it.
  • You can use Black Powder  and blast it with Cluster Bomb  + other blasts from your party to skip some trash mobs.
Daytime: Day
Potion: Powerful Potion of Krait Slaying  / Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet’s Armies  (Works only on the kraits at the beginning)
Sigil: Force + Serpent Slaying (For the kraits at the beginning) / Force + Impact (For the Jellyfish endboss)
Skillbar:     Run Haste for more Quickness as Mesmer can’t keep it permanent underwater

Tips:      

Daytime: Night
Potion: No useful potions for this fractal
Sigil: Force + Night
Skillbar:     
Tips:
  • You can use Shadow Trap  to do one of the 3 wisps at the beginning very fast
  • You can get 25 Stacks of Bloodlust on the mobs during Bloomhunger’s phases if you have a Shortbow or another weapon with a Sigil of Bloodlust on swap
  • Use Infiltrator’s Arrow  or Vault  to reach the 25% phase wisps quicker
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Daytime: Day
Potion: Powerful Potion of Inquest Slaying  (for Old Tom and the 4 Kitty Golem)Powerful Potion of Flame Legion Slaying  (only for the Fire Shaman)
Sigil: Force + Impact / Force + Air (For the 4 Kitty Golem endboss)
Skillbar:     
Tips:
  • You can stealth your team past the harpies by dropping a smoke field and blasting it. ex: Black Powder 
  • Take Smoke Screen  on the endboss for more projectile defense
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Daytime: Day
Potion: no useful potions for this fractal
Sigil: Force + Impact
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • You can stealth your team past the trash mobs by dropping a smoke field and blasting it. ex: Black Powder 
  • Use Double Pistol or Shortbow to kill the Oil at the beginning if nobody is killing it
Daytime: Day
Potion: Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet’s Armies 
Sigil: no useful sigils for this fractal
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • Take Smoke Screen  in the last room to absorb some projectiles
Daytime: Night
Potion: Powerful Potion of Sons of Svanir Slaying  (For the svanirs at the beginning and the endboss) + Powerful Potion of Elemental Slaying  (For the first boss)
Sigil: Night + Wrath (For the svanirs at the beginning and the endboss) / Night + Elemental Slaying  (For the first boss)
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • You can run Unhindered Combatant  after the Elemental source to skip as fast as possible the dark forest and trigger a checkpoint for your team
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Daytime: Day
Potion: no useful potions for this fractal
Sigil: Force + Impact
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • You can stealth your team past the trash mobs by dropping a smoke field and blasting it. ex: Black Powder 
  • Your Basilisk Venom  is unblockable so try to break Subject 6 (the champ Ooze) when he is blocking
  • You can have a Double Pistol on swap on the endboss to range dps when the platforms are gone
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Daytime: Day
Potion: Powerful Potion of Outlaw Slaying 
Sigil: Force + Justice
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • You can take Smoke Screen  for projectile defense against the cultists
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Daytime: Night
Potion: Powerful Potion of Dredge Slaying  (For all the dredge and the dredge endboss) / Powerful Potion of Elemental Slaying  (For the elemental endboss)
Sigil: Night + Sorrow (For all the dredge and the dredge endboss) / Night + Elemental Slaying (For the elemental endboss)
Skillbar:    
Tips:
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Daytime: Day
Potion: Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet’s Armies  (For everything until you reach the boss + Frizz) + Powerful Potion of Inquest Slaying  (for the golems at the endboss)
Sigil: Force + Inquest Slaying
Skillbar:    
Tips:
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Daytime: Night
Potion: Powerful Potion of Grawl Slaying  (for the grawls at the beginning and Champion Grawl Shaman) / Powerful Potion of Demon Slaying  or Powerful Potion of Elemental Slaying  (for the end boss fight. Both work)
Sigil: Night + Grawl Slaying (for the grawls at the beginning and Champion Grawl Shaman) / Night + Demon Slaying or Elemental Slaying (for the endboss fight)
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • You can take Devourer Venom  for the save the captives event to immobilize the veteran grawls
  • Take Smoke Screen  for more projectile defense and also to blind the adds that spawn every 25%
  • Your Basilisk Venom  is unblockable so you can break the Legendary Shaman when his shield is up if he is too close to imprisoned NPC (villager)
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Daytime: Day
Potion: Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet’s Armies 
Sigil: Force + Impact
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • Pretty straightforward fractal you can take Smoke Screen  for the 25% adds if you think you need more projectile defense and blind
Daytime: Day
Potion: Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet’s Armies 
Sigil: Force + Impact
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • Pretty straigthforward fractal take Smoke Screen  for the first Champion and endboss if you think you need more projectile defense
Daytime: Night
Potion: No useful potions for this fractal
Sigil: Force + Night
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • Pretty straigthforward fractal take Smoke Screen  for projectile defense and blind
Daytime: Day
Potion: No useful potions for this fractal
Sigil: Force + Impact (on the endboss)
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • You can stealth your team past the golems and before the Light the Fire’s event by dropping a smoke field and blasting it. ex: Black Powder 
  • Using Vault to dodge his 3rd auto attack (the daze attack) to keep up your rotation is a DPS increase over plain dodging
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Daytime: Day
Potion: Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet’s Armies  (works for everything) / Powerful Potion of Krait Slaying  (works for Siax + Ensolyss and krait trashmobs)
Sigil: Force + Impact or Impact + Serpent Slaying
Skillbar:    
Tips:
  • Using Vault to dodge MAMA’s big red aoe attack to keep up your rotation is a DPS increase over plain dodging
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